2014 Diego Simeone Tactic???

[triz]

Anyone have diego simeone tactic???please help me

[Lee-Roy]

Haven't watched them in a while, but if he's still playing the counter attacking 442 teams then I've tried and it's not so great. It's a basic back 4, two DMC's - a DLM and B2B, ML and MR wingers and poacher and a complete forward (do whatever you want guy) up front. Tough tackling, counter attacking mixed passing.

[FastDevil]

It is 4-4-2 Classic, with BBM and BMW in the mids 

using Direct passing and hard tackling

using a target man and a poacher at the forwards

[Lee-Roy]

It is 4-4-2 Classic, with BBM and BMW in the mids

using Direct passing and hard tackling

using a target man and a poacher at the forwards

But Athletico are a great counter attacking team, I can't remember ever seeing them play with a target man. Where do you get your information from?

[Lee-Roy]

I'll explain as my two posts differ to each other lol, after answering this I spent the night watching Athletico on youtube, they're definitely a CA team without a TM

[FastDevil]

 

It is 4-4-2 Classic, with BBM and BMW in the mids

using Direct passing and hard tackling

using a target man and a poacher at the forwards

But Athletico are a great counter attacking team, I can't remember ever seeing them play with a target man. Where do you get your information from?

 

 

I usually name strikers like  mandzucic, Jelavic,Carrol,Pazzini, Crouch , ... as a Target man!!

Because of their height,They are always a target for crosses 

[Lee-Roy]

That's not a target man at all.

For a start, Mandzukic in FMH terms is the perfect DLF, not TM. But in real life, he's closer to the complete forward that I mentioned. Yes he is big and powerful, but you have to look past that. He runs for days, he moves around that pictch more than any player on any given day. That's not a target man. Mandzukic regularly helps out in midfield and has great technical ability that most TM's are lacking.

The only TM out of them players you named is Carroll.

[FastDevil]

That's not a target man at all.

For a start, Mandzukic in FMH terms is the perfect DLF, not TM. But in real life, he's closer to the complete forward that I mentioned. Yes he is big and powerful, but you have to look past that. He runs for days, he moves around that pictch more than any player on any given day. That's not a target man. Mandzukic regularly helps out in midfield and has great technical ability that most TM's are lacking.

The only TM out of them players you named is Carroll.

 

So.....

A target man is a Heavy and tall Poacher? 

[Lee-Roy]

A target man generally stays up top waiting for the ball using his positioning. When he gets it he keeps it where it is using his strength to hold off the opp and will make a pass when possible.

And you can see the difference with Mandzukic, as he's up and down the pitch all day long.

Most often a team using a target man as their main point of attack will use long passing anyway.

[triz]

this article about diego simeone tactic previous season http://outsideoftheboot.com/2014/04/13/atletico-madrid-tactics-part-1-how-has-diego-simeone-set-up-his-side/
i dont know they playing same or diferent tactic this year,cause lot key player leave,,like diego costa,david villa,courtois,filipe
btw,,thanks guy reply my post,,i still confused how diego simeone tactic in fmh,,sorri my bad english,,im from indonesia

[triz]

diego simeone tactic my version

--------------GK--------------
FB-----CB-------CB-----FB
W-----BTB------DLM---W
--------Treq------P---------
Balanced
Direct
Commited
Pressing
Counter attack

jimenez or griezmann play trequarista role,,,,What do you think guy??What your version??

A target man generally stays up top waiting for the ball using his positioning. When he gets it he keeps it where it is using his strength to hold off the opp and will make a pass when possible.

And you can see the difference with Mandzukic, as he's up and down the pitch all day long.

Most often a team using a target man as their main point of attack will use long passing any

I agree,,,,I think Mandzukic role is Complete Forward,,he can play DLF,DF,Poacher,Target man etc in real life

[Lee-Roy]

He does the lot, and plays a pretty good midfielder at some times in the match.

[triz]

Any ideas how diego simeone tactic in fmh??they play deep,compact,narrow tactic in real life

Lot goals from set piece

[Piggers5]

I don't believe a Simeone tactic is possible in FM until the addition of 'intimidate referee' and 'consistently foul' options in the tactics menu.

[Dec]

Target Men use movement not positioning just to clarify, positioning is defensive only

[Lee-Roy]

He's got to know where the balls gonna be though right? That's the difference between Andy Carroll and a good target man.

[FastDevil]

So.... Andy Caroll is not a good target man?

[Lee-Roy]

Actually I'm gonna presume Dec's talking about FMH. And in irl it's not positioning I'm thinking of, it's anticipation. Andy Caroll's not just a bad TM, he's a bad human being.

[RafaChidaz]

442 defensive?

Wb--cd--bpd--wb

-----B2B--dlm------

Wm--------------wm

-------inf--------------

-------------cmf------

Koke the other wide men (turan etc) definitely aren't wingers.

Team intructions not so sure - Attacking, Mixed, committed, pressing in my opinion. Don't seem direct unless it's a clear counterattack.

Frontman possibly advanced forward too (mandzukic) but he's definitely not a poacher

Didn't go with an APM in attacking mid as they don't have a prime creator there. Koke is the closest it gets but he plays wide coming in

[Dec]

I am Lee. In FMH movement is the attacking version of positioning.