2011 Manager Points

[rafa]

Ever wondered how did you get those manager points in your profile? Well, let's solve this mystery together!

So far, I have identified two sources of manager points:

1) Playing games

The bulk of your manager points probably comes from playing games. You need to actively play them - holidaying through games do not give you manager points, independently of the result. Friendly matches also do not award manager points, not even when playing with a national team. I have noticed that points are the same in all competitions - A draw against Bath gives you the same amount of points as a draw against Barcelona.

You get manager points after every game. These are the calculated factors:

P: Points

R: Result (win, draw or loss)

V: Venue (home, away)

GD: Goal difference

Here is the formula:

P = R + V + GD

P ≥ 0 - Points can't be negative.

R: Result

R is 3 for a win, 1 for a draw and zero for a loss.

V: Venue

V is 1 when playing away, and 0 when playing home.

GD: Goal difference:

Your goal difference is added to your managerial points.

Examples:

Losing a game

Losing a game always gives you zero points.

Drawing a game

A draw can have only 2 possible manager points outcomes:

• 1 point for a draw at home
  
• 2 points for a draw away
  

Winning a game

That's where the bulk of your points come from. Let's consider you won your last game away, 1-5. Remembering the formula:

P = R + V + GD

You have:

P = 3 + 1 + 4

P = 8

8 points, not bad

Quick summary:

Loss = 0 points

Draw home = 1 point

Draw away = 2 points

Win home = 3 points + goal difference

Win away = 4 points + goal difference

2) Trophies & Promotions

Differently from games, you actually get these points when holidaying. I have identified very few competitions and their respective points award so far. Here are they:

Spanish Super Cup: 100 points

English Community Shield: 100 points *

Johnstone's Paint Trophy: 50 points

Promotion from League 2: 30 points

Promotion from BSP: 25 points

* Thanks to samhardy

So, if any of you knows how many manager points other competitions give, let me know and I'll add it here!

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Feedback is always appreciated!

[Sunny]

Cool stuff Rafa

[samhardy]

Nice stuff Rafa

[rafa]

Thanks guys

[Dylan]

Why do we learn Maths :huh: when we have Rafa

[Dec]

Great Rafa, never really thought about that to be honest but this makes me wonder why not.

[JeffreyA]

This aspect of the game had always confused me... +1 Rafa

[rafa]

Nice

So, when you're playing that great cup final, do not forget to check your manager points before and after winning it and post it here!

[Mysterion]

great guide here Rafa never knew how manger points worked +1

[Franco]

Why do we learn Maths :huh: when we have Rafa

Because Maths is fun.

But anyway, awful work here Rafa, what are you playing at? (Who's too polite now?)

[Dylan]

Because Maths is fun.

But anyway, awful work here Rafa, what are you playing at? (Who's too polite now?)

Why say that ? I taught it was great work

[samhardy]

It was a joke as Rafa called Franco too polite earlier

[Marc Vaughan]

Nice analysis Rafa:

In case you were wondering about the competitions the points for them are worked out by:

Wining a Cup - Competition reputation * 10

Winning a Division = Reputation * 10 (or Reputation * 20 for top division)

Promotion = Reputation * 5

I don't have a list of competitions to hand I'm afraid to give you the exact reputations for each - but if you have FM to hand they'll be the same as is shown in that editor (remember FMH shares data with its big brother).

[JeffreyA]

Hey Rafa, does the manager Reputation modify the manager points in any way?

[rafa]

Not that I am aware of. I think the relevant question is the opposite, do the manager points affect the manager reputation?

[rafa]

Nice analysis Rafa:

In case you were wondering about the competitions the points for them are worked out by:

Wining a Cup - Competition reputation * 10

Winning a Division = Reputation * 10 (or Reputation * 20 for top division)

Promotion = Reputation * 5

I don't have a list of competitions to hand I'm afraid to give you the exact reputations for each - but if you have FM to hand they'll be the same as is shown in that editor (remember FMH shares data with its big brother).

Thanks for that Marc! I don't own FM11 for PC/Mac, but I can have an idea of the reputation of most leagues!

[Conor]

Sorry Rafa, but you don't get points every single game you play.

[samhardy]

I'm sure if you win a game you get points Conor

[rafa]

Sorry Rafa, but you don't get points every single game you play.

Sorry Conor, but everything I wrote is correct.

You get points for every game you play, except losses and friendlies.

[Conor]

Sorry Conor, but everything I wrote is correct.

You get points for every game you play, except losses and friendlies.

I didn't

[Sunny]

I didn't

Conor, you do. Proof:

Points before match won:

Game Won:

Points after game won:

Game drawn:

Points after 2nd game:

I better convince some people/get some rep after I intentionally drew an easy win just to help...or I'll get mad

[JeffreyA]

Haha Sunny, I was about to do that

[rafa]

Conor, if you can't read a sentence until the end, it's not my problem.

[rafa]

Conor, you do. Proof:

Points before match won:

Game Won:

Points after game won:

Game drawn:

Points after 2nd game:

I better convince some people/get some rep after I intentionally drew an easy win just to help...or I'll get mad

Very illustrative examples, thanks a lot Sunny!

[rafa]

Added: Spanish Super Cup = 100 points.

[samhardy]

100 for Community Shield but don't know whether it's different on PSP

[rafa]

100 for Community Shield but don't know whether it's different on PSP

Thanks Sam! It's the same, as Marc explained.

[Sunny]

Forgot how many I got for the Brazilian First Division Title

I'll look out for Copa Sudamericana(something like that)

[rafa]

Forgot how many I got for the Brazilian First Division Title

I'll look out for Copa Sudamericana(something like that)

Haha, already assuming you're going to win?

[Sunny]

Haha, already assuming you're going to win?

Obviously. I've got the final and the semi finals of the Club World Cup on the same day...

I think it's 150 for both of them